Neanderthals show god was a dick

I have written before about the Neanderthal/Homo Sapiens connection and why this is proof enough that the creationist god is an absolutely disgusting tyrant.

That's why the recent study published in Nature and reported on by the BBC and Plos is so interesting as it makes god even more of a dick than I originally thought. This study relates that the type 2 diabetes gene which is found in Mexicans is inherited from Neanderthals through their breeding with early Homo Sapiens in Europe. This gene is the gene which is to blame for type diabetes 2 in Latin Americans. Just a brief note, the report says Mexicans as the study was done in Mexico with Mexican genes. So what does this tell us about god?

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Firstly, and as I have pointed out before. God is a tyrant he/she/it killed of ones of its special creations. I say special as humans think we are special for some reason as we get revealed things like the Bible or Koran or Dianetics or insert random other myth by our god. The fact that this gene was passed on from Neanderthals who share two different evolutionary paths is further evidence that Neanderthals were close to Homo Sapiens in development.

Second reason why god is horrible, he/she/it allowed this gene for a very serious illness to be transferred to a population he apparently loved. I mean if god hated the Neanderthals and killed them off, then why would god allow a disease to transfer from this species that god hated so much to a species go loves so much?

So many questions which show over and over again that god is a dick.

Why I will watch Noah

For those of you that don't know next year will feature the release of Noah. The story of Noah's Ark, and I am super excited for all the wrong yet right reasons.

 
Finally, the bible is going to be made to look ridiculous on the big screen just like all other mythological stories. There is no way anyone in their right mind can watch this movie and walk away thinking that all the animals could fit on an ark. There is no way that anyone can watch this movie and think that god is a loving and merciful god. Also the creationists will see that there were no dinosaurs on the ark, which is disappointing as this is what I expected after what I have heard from the discovery institute. If you watch this movie, and still think Noah's ark is a possibility then you are an idiot, and you should start believing in other great myths like Zeus or the Titans or Thor.

Lets have a big cheer for Hollywood and the cast and crew of the movie putting the bible where it belongs into mythology.

Lastly I intend to watch it, even if its just to see Emma Watson's performance.

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Idiots of the Week - UAE court systems

The Idiots of the week are the United Arab Emirates court systems in Dubai, and I am still not sure I fully understand.

This week 8 people (3 in abstentia) have been prosecuted under the 2012 cybercrimes law in the UAE. This law according to the BBC "provides a legal basis to prosecute people who use information technology to criticise senior officials, argue for political reform or organise unlicensed demonstrations." So what did these 8 people do to deserve a 8 month to 1 year prison sentence as well as a 1361 to a 2722 $ fine? Did they criticise the great and venerable rich monarch Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum of Dubai? Did they argue for political reform by asking that women can have more rights or that the ban on public sex be lifted? Did they organise an unlicensed demonstration or did they organise a licensed demonstration for that matter?

Turns out it was none of the above, they got convicted for making a mockumentary. This mockumentary was critical of nothing, not even Islam so not sure why they got sentenced to jail. According to one of the makers of the video it is"a spoof video about Dubai youth culture." It was this spoof that landed them in hot water as the courts deemed it to be defaming the UAE society's image abroad.

Guess what idiots, you defamed the UAE all by yourself by this ridiculous ruling. I guess this kind of thing happens when you have civil and sharia courts operating in one country. Oh and yes they respect free speech???? Sorry, this just makes no sense. Stupid idiots!

Here is what got these guys the jail time.

Been an atheist does not mean automatic win

Some atheists need to grow up and stop acting like brats.

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I recently witnessed this unfolding before me as an atheist unravelled into acting like a spoilt child and so I thought its time to share my views on the fact that been an atheist does not make you right about everything. That I even have to type this previous sentence is unnerving, as it should be obvious. However some people you just cannot help.

The atheist in question was debating the fact that theism is a transitional form in human cultural/cognitive evolution. The problem was that he was unable to present any evidence for this, and even admitted this was his theory. Naturally theist and atheist alike attacked this position as it had serious flaws in the argument. He then went on a rant about how uneducated everyone was, even insulting his debating opponent. He even told him me his rant and insult of my assessment of his debate that he should win as he presented statistics, which was true but not relevant to the topic. But here is the thing, he was not supplying any evidence just his observations ergo he is at fault for presenting something which has not been verified.

This is a problem!

You are not right, if you say something without evidence. Even if it has to do with religion, even if you are probably right. If you get challenged you need to provide evidence and if you cannot then you have to concede your point. Your idea should be based on rationality and science.

So theists, see even atheists are human.

Merry Christmas 2013.

I am a theist I am entitled to my prejuidices

There was a time in the history of mankind when people were entitled to certain things. The most well known entitlements were the birth rights that were passed down to you in the Feudal system that dominated Europe in the 9th to 15th centuries.This feudalistic society is horrific by today's standards as it essentially was the oppression of the poor into indentured servitude. Even if the lord granted a person land, they were still subject to the Lord as they became a Vassal and as such did not have that much freedom to do what they wanted. These entitlements came from nothing and were passed down from eldest child to eldest child. These entitlements also allowed these Lords to carry/learn prejudices as they were "better" than everyone else in their land.

This is the problem essentially with entitilement, it breeds prejuidice.

When a theist believes in a god they think they are entitled to believe certain things which are not true. In fact this false belief can then lead to the creation of prejudices which a person feels entitled to. One just has to consider the stance of the church against homosexuals. Let me make this clear, I am not talking about gay marriage I am talking about homosexual sexual acts. Even more interesting, is that this does not stop at homosexuals this is also true with sexual acts between heterosexuals. The church does not want you to be having sex before you get married, the church does not want you to masturbate, the church does not want you to use a sexual intercourse position other than the missionary position.Actually, I would go so far as to say the church does not want you ever to enjoy anything sexual. Its there one method of control and they do not want to lose it.

In general I think it can be said that every theist thinks they are entitled to the one and only way to go to heaven or nirvana or whatever else they want to call it. Christians believe the Bible is law, the Muslims the Koran and so on. But this is an entitlement that you think you are better than others, that you deserve special treatment. This kind of thinking makes you believe you are entitled to your racial/sexual/gender prejudices.

In closing let me break it down for you. You are not entitled to be prejudiced ever.

The good of religion

Theists think atheists think that religion can do nothing good. Well that's not true, here are some good things religion did.

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Notice No Rules.

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Notice No Holy Books.

 

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Notice No Superstition.

 

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Notice No Discrimination.

Religion gave us good things, but they are only good to look at everything else is rubbish.

Idiot of the week - Megyn Kelly

I know this is old news, but I refuse to let her get away with it.

Megyn Kelly of Fox News is the Idiot of the week. This is not about the Santa comment, its about the Jesus comment. Santa is not real, so Santa can be pink for all I care, I don't care. But, when you say Jesus is white and a historical fact (1:45) you are no longer in the rational realm of things and you are a news reporter. The facts are that Jesus (if he existed) was not white. Its ridiculous to think Jesus was white, in fact I posted recently about this similar delusion people are under with the Jesus of Siberia.

So again here is a picture of what Jesus would have looked like.

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I am guessing the reason Megyn thinks Jesus was white is due to her white looks as well.  BTW this is not racist, its just how people associate things like a white Santa. So sorry kids, Jesus was not white.

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Congratulations Megyn you are the idiot of the week, as you are a reporter that does not know how to report.

Golden Ratio in the Koran

Often when you are busy in debates or writing blog posts, there are certain topics that will reoccur. I think this is the subconsciousness way of making you think about a specific topic that is either really bothering you or something you need to find rational answers too. This week I have already posted about Apophenia, and this post deals with this pattern finding and Islam this time.

Anyway, I was debating a theist who was telling me about the mathematical miracles in the Koran. I said this is absurd as the examples he gave can be found in any text such as Midsummer's Night Dream. Granted the examples in Midsummer's Night Dream are just patterns occurring in each act, but if we applied a number to each pattern, we could eventually get some numerical data out which may seem rational but is in fact utter rubbish. At this point my opponent interjected and said I need to read more about this subject than I already have. He even provided me a link to a Youtube video to watch, which would explain this concept better than he could. So, he believe something that he cannot explain to me? But I digress.

So I watched the video.

This is what I found out. Apparently, the Golden Ratio can be found in the Koran, I say apparently as you have to go through some mental gymnastics to get there. This is what irritates me about theists, if the Golden Ratio was in the Koran surely it would have just said something like this.
"It was revealed to the Most Holy Prophet Muhammad that the Golden Ratio was 1.61803398875"
Instead, what you have to do to get the Golden Ratio is  add two random numbers that mean some word together, subtract the square root of the verses ending in x, multiply the cube of Allah's and then do a Fourier transformation. This is mental gymnastics, it is looking for patterns where there are none. This is a mental disorder, its called Apophenia.

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On a side note, if I was religious I could use the reason that these patterns keep coming up in this weeks posts as proof of god. After all surely, it can not just be coincidence that my subconscious is teaching me something. ;)

Apologetics AKA Mental Gymnastics

I mentioned in a previous blog post that I have been listening to William Lane Craigs podcast series Defenders. Additionally, I have been reading a book called Love Wins by Rob Bell. So you could say I am on an apologetics bender.

Anyway, no matter what I have heard or read over this past month or more, there is one thing I am certain of. Apologetics is mental gymnastics! You have to jump through so many hoops and over so many fires and twist your logic so far to believe the rubbish these people believe. Apologetics is what happens when you throw rationality out of the window and take blind faith as a reason to believe something. Apologetics is the non sceptical approach to a sceptical subject. In other words apologetics has no basis for anything, and apologists are doing a disservice to the world by creating conspiracy theists.

Conspiracy theists: are people that believe something with no rational basis. Very similar to conspiracy theorists. Let me give you some examples of these conspiracy theists.

(a) William Lane Craigs Cosmological Argument is a joke. He has to presuppose that the biblical God is real for it to work. No matter what you will ever hear about this argument, it is wrong. The simple reason is that you have to presuppose for it to work. The whole Cosmological argument is a farce, as it can be used to "prove" that anything can create the universe like a peanut butter sandwich.

(b) Rob Bells miracles of Jesus and rebirth is a joke. How long did he have to search for this number pattern, I believe it is called apophenia (a lot of religious scholars use this as proof) when you look for patterns in random places where no patterns exist. I post the part of the text below to show you what I mean.

One of the things you pick up in reading the Bible over time is that the writers were `extremely clever, employing incredibly complex patterns with numbers and hints and allusions in their writings. Often just below the surface they would place another story, another point.

So when John numbers these first two signs, we are wise to begin asking questions. Why the numbers? What’s he getting at? If we then read on, looking for more signs, we see Jesus heal a man by a pool in the next chapter. That would be the third sign in the Gospel. Then in chapter 6 he provides bread for the crowd and then walks on water. Those would be signs four and five. Then in chapter 9 he heals a blind man, which would be sign six. And then, in chapter 11, he raises Lazarus from the dead, a “sign” if there ever was one. Seven signs.
 
Now ask: Is the number seven significant in the Bible? Does it occur in any other
prominent place? Well, yes, it does. In the poem that begins the Bible. The poem speaks of seven days of creation. But there’s one more sign in John’s Gospel. In chapter 20 Jesus rises from the dead. Now that’s a sign. The eighth sign in the book of John. Jesus rises from the dead in a garden. Which, of course, takes us back to Genesis, to the first creation in a . . . garden.

ITS a CONSPIRACY......No its just apologetics.

Idiots of the week - Indian Supreme Court

This week the idiots are......The Indian Supreme Court for the dumbest decision under pressure of the religious.

After pressure from the religious India's Supreme Court has overturned its 2009 decisions which decriminalised homosexual sex. So now it is illegal to do any of the following in India: no oral sex, no anal sex, no touching, no kissing. The only thing you can do is put your penis into a vagina. As all these other things listed homosexuals are capable of engaging in, and as such all of these things are illegal according to India's idiotic law. Just in case you do think of doing any of this please realise it could result in 10 years in jail.

Just in case you think the religious did not have an influence in this decision,

Here is a list of the idiots who opposed the law change that happened in 2009 (I highlighted the religious/superstitious) All India Muslim Personal Law Board, Suresh Kumar Koushal (astrologer), Krantikari Manuwadi Morcha (Hindu), Trust Gods Ministry, Apostolic Churches Alliance and Utkal Christian Foundation and S.K. Tizarawala, a representative of Baba Ramdev (Yogi) Wow!, hang on they are all religious groups (except the lone astrology idiot), because religion is stupid. Well done India thanks to stupid religion your High court earns the title Idiots of the week.

I think this quote sums up the logic of these religious idiots. Mohammad Qureshi, spokesperson for the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, said “We are very satisfied with it. Homosexuality is a sin in all Indian religions…we feel the Supreme Court judgement is a step in the right direction,”. Morons! The right direction is the way to discriminate against people according to religion. Sometimes, I think religion should just be relabelled as hate group but that would be unfair to the handful of religious that are not actually homophobic/sexist/elitists.

Jesus is alive in Siberia

Do you know about Jesus.......of Siberia? Otherwise known as Vissarion. The link to the Vice movie about him and his followers is given below if you have 25 minutes. Yes, I am aware this is not the only real Jesus I have blogged about, but really its difficult to stick to the numbers. Maybe, I should dedicate a tab to the Jesus's I write about. (1, 2)

This guy looks like the Jesus that everyone in the west thinks Jesus would look like. Blond hair and blue eyes, tall handsome with a mystique about him.But hang on I digress I will get to that later. After Jesus most probably didn’t look this westernized like Vissarion,

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but rather looked like this.

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Anyway this guy has written the Last Testament. Pretty much like Joseph Smith and every other Jesus/Muhammad guy out there these guys really like writing books full of spiritual messages for you to follow. Not that I believe the original Jesus and Muhammad were not lunatics. The followers of Vissarion live in a Jesus camp/compound/village in the Taiga forest in Russia.I am not been mean by calling it all these names, as from the style of the buildings I am a little confused.

Is this a cult? I am not sure, but I do not think its healthy. It reminds me of Jonestown in a way been all isolated, so lets hope the magic cool aid does not make an appearance any time soon.

The whole movie is pretty trippy, but highlights of the movie include:

4:00 This cult teaches that its important to be a misogynist as women are weak and not meant to be leaders.If they go against this they they will get disease and suffering. That's why boys and girls get different education at the "Jesus city".

8:00 They take your passport when you visit, not creepy at all.
16:00 The Vissarion mystique

19:00 The truth that these guys believe in UFOs, why do all the new religions believe in UFOs?
20:00 The Vissarion interview. Watch the perfect politician, side step skills of the century. You can't pin this guy on anything. Again more mystique.

The Movie

Muhammad was an imaginary paedophile

This post stems from a recent debate I had, which can be read here.

Turns out this debate I  conceded, and in effect admitted Muhammad was not a paedophile. But, there is a very valid reason why I did this and in effect "lost" the debate. My reasons for asserting Muhammad was paedophile are based on the Hadith and other historians of the time which said Muhammad married Aisha between the age of 7-10 years old. If you read the debate, there are more than enough historical accounts to show this is true. The few verses that disagree with this, do not give any ages and as such are pure speculation to Aishas age. This indicates a sexual interest and would make Muhammad a paedophile according to the psychiatric definition which says: a paedophile is an individual who fantasises about, is sexually aroused by, or experiences sexual urges toward prepubescent children (generally <13 years) for a period of at least 6 months."

The Hadith are books which detail the life of the prophet and build a base for the truth of the Koran and Islamic Law. So in effect the Hadith are an integral part of Islamic belief.

However my opponents objection was that the Hadith should get dismissed as they were written a long time after Muhammad died and could contain inaccuracies. I said this is fine, but then it also means that the Koran, Allah and Muhammad are completely meaningless. It could even be argued then that Muhammad did not even exist as most of the history of Muhammad's existence comes from the Hadith. There are even some Islamic scholars that agree with this, reminds me of that other guy called Jesus in a way. I conceded the debate to my opponent if he agreed to say that Islam, Muhammad and Allah are all fairy tales. Turns out my opponent was/is and agnostic/atheist so the debate lacked the teeth it could have had.

So yes, I conceded the debate as I was debating an imaginary person and we cannot conclude an imaginary person was a paedophile. Its like saying Harry Potter is the greatest magician,when this person does not exist. So today is a great day as Muhammad was not a real life paedophile. However,if you do believe the Koran and Hadith are real, then you have to accept that Muhammad was a real life paedophile.

Oh and now pictures like this are no longer offensive.

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Otherwise these are as well.

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Another reason not to believe in Scientotlogy

In September of this year I did  a series of posts (1, 2, 3 , 4, 5) on the Scientology cult. Now, I have a confession to make. No, I was not a Scientologist but that would have been a cool story. Its the reason that I wrote those posts in the first place. I was reading about L.Ron Hubbard and I was thinking "This guy must have been a great science fiction writer to be able to mislead so many people." So I decided to watch the movie Battlefield Earth, which features prominent Scientologist John Travolta.

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What a horrible, horrible movie. The plot was stupid, the acting was bad, everything was just bad. I suppose this is the reason why it is considered one of the worst movies ever made as voted by the public. I don't think even Scientology's golden boy (Tom Cruise) would have been able to save this piece of trash.

I think honestly the easiest way to convert any Scientologist is to make them watch this movie. It just shows you what a bad writer L.Ron really was, and makes you wonder how anyone can believe this Scientology farce about Xenu and thetans etc. I wonder how many people besides Atheists and Scientologists actually know about this stuff? I think even Christians/Muslims who believe in fairy tales will admit this is a bit over the top.

Here is some highlights of just how bad this piece of trash is.

Idiot of the week - Bishop Seraphim

The award this week goes to Bishop Seraphim from Greece who has said that if Greece legalizes same sex partnerships they will suffer the wrath of God. As we know from all the stories about God, they are real! So I guess Greece best heed his warnings and......wait oh yeah nothing ever happens.

What he fails to mention is that Greece is in violation of their commitments to the European Union to allow same-sex marriages. In fact they are in violation of the European human rights convention. But then again we cant expect people who wear robes and walk around with gold walking sticks to really understand the world,as they live in a fantasy land. Maybe, he wants Greece to be kicked out of the EU, or maybe he just wants to be a homophobe.

This is why religion does not belong in civilised society, as idiots like this think they can (and they do) influence politics. They dont want human rights,they want subjection to their god as long as it is putting money in their pockets. They want to be able to practice their discriminations and biases whenever they feel like it.

Bishop Seraphim you are a royal gold coated idiot.

Go F%&* yourself theists and your morals

This post was written a week ago, while in a bad mood over the so called morality question. Often I will right something and then not post it. However, even while inflammatory I think this is one post that I will publish.

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I am so sick and tired of theists who say atheists are unable to live a moral life without a god.

These are the same people that say Muhammed was not wrong for raping a nine year old.The same people that protect Catholic priest paedophiles. The same people that say the Israelites were justified in their multiple genocides. The same people that say slavery in the bible was justified. The same people that believe a women needs 4 witnesses to testify that she was raped. The same people that discard their kin when they do wrong (Hitler anyone?).

You do this and call me amoral? So theists Go F%$* yourself.

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Why was Gideon so darn special

I was reading a little about Gideon the other day. You know him that gave his name to those bibles that you find in nightstand’s at hotels and motels around the world. Remember, when you take them its not stealing they want you to take them, that’s why they are there in the first place.

So I was wondering why is Gideon so special to God to get all the proof he needed to prove Gods existence. My point is that if anyone got that kind of confirmation form a god they would believe, yet no one does except those in the bible. Does that mean God plays favourite?

Just in case you wonder what miracle I am referring to. Its the mass genocide  massacre (see update) perpetrated by Gideon against the Midanite soldiers. But before you think I am crazy calling a massacre genocide a miracle,I have a reason. This massacre genocide was conducted by 300 Israelites (Judges 7:7) who killed 120,000 Midanites (Judges 8:10). Okay, that means each Israelite killed 400 Midanites in a battle, its impossible and so must qualify as a miracle. Now I am not saying I want God to commit a genocide for me even though he is pretty good at things like that. I am just saying that if all these guys in the bible get seas parted, plagues, living inside fish, second life etc. why cant I?

This is just one more reason why I think the biblical god is just as dumb as any other deity you can throw at me. The stories are absurd, and if he is really this powerful he knows what miracle would convince me.

Update 3rd December 20123
As one of my readers has pointed out, the use of the word genocide is incorrect in this context as it was two armies fighting each other. Thanks Sheldon, I agree massacre would be a far better word.

Idiots of the week - Pakistani Council of Islamic Ideology

This story is old, but as I only heard about it recently I have made the Pakistani Council of Islamic Ideology idiots of the week. They really deserve it, after all it made Nature.

Please realize that this council is not the jucidial system in Pakistan.

These idiots have decided that DNA is not to be considered primary evidence in rape cases, but rather as supporting evidence. In other words semen that is found inside a raped and traumatized women in not meant to be evidence for rape. So what would these guys consider evidence then?

Have no fear, as apparently Islam has the market cornered on rape evidence. Its easy really all you need is four witnesses to the rape.
Koran Surah 24:13 Why did they not produce four witnesses ? Since they produce not witnesses, they verily are liars in the sight of Allah.
So as you can see its reasonable that four men would stand about and watch a rape and not protect the lady been raped. I gather this is due to the way that Islam treats women, they treat them badly so they can have witnesses to rape.

These guys are idiots,so congratulations Sharia law and the Council of Islamic Ideology in all your combined stupid glory.

List of podcasts I listen too

I have been meaning to make this list for some time, but never get around to it. So without further ado a list of podcasts I listen to and why.

Atheist Podcasts

1) The Thinking Atheist
This show is remarkable in that it is a one host show,that keeps you entertained when really it should be more boring (Yes, this is a compliment). I like it for the respectful and friendly nature of the host Seth Andrews. He approaches many topics with an atheist viewpoint and has a great way of getting his point across using his storytelling and other analogies.

2) The Atheist Experience
I believe this is on most peoples lists and rightfully so. Its different to other podcasts/shows in that it is an interaction between host and theists callers. The callers are not always theists but they do try their best.

3) The Bitchspot Report
Since coming across Cephus's Blog and podcast I have been a fan. The hosts are very logical and well reasoned, and I would recommend it as its sceptical nature gives any listener food for thought. Also it has a conservative twist which is a small voice in the atheist community, and you may be surprised to learn conservative is not what you thought. I know I was.

4) Reasonable Doubts
I like to think of this show as Atheism 101, the hosts delve into any religion and explain why it is ridiculous. It is refreshing as the show gets a lot of interesting guests which gives the show a special twist. They have different segments in the show such as counter apologetics, so even if you only listen to one segment there is something to gain from it.

5) Non-Prophets
I am hesitant to put this on the list as its just back from a long hiatus, but I like them. Important to note, this podcast is not for  everyone. I like it for the banter among the hosts, although I do not agree with all of their views. Especially those regarding feminism.

Sceptic Podcasts (a list of 1)

1) Inquiring Minds
This podcast is new but old. Whatever way you look at it, its a great sceptic/science podcast which has interesting guests every week. Its more an interview show than a pure podcast, but well worth the listen.

I used to listen to the Skeptics Guide to the Universe but have dismissed it as one of the hosts is not really such a great sceptic in my opinion.

Any other Podcasts you think should make the list? Let me know and I can add them to a future edition of the list......well if I like them.

Emotion i not a good enough reason for a belief

Often you will hear theists claim they have proof for a god and this proof cannot be explained by science or logic but needs to be felt personally to understand that this god exists. To this I say no, this is unacceptable. Now, let me show you why your belief should be based on more than a feeling using an analogy.

I am part of generation X and as such when I was growing up there was some really influential music been made.In particular there was this little known band (irony intended) called Nirvana. Now in my opinion this music is the best music ever made, and I still listen to it today and love every chord. Every time I listen to Nirvana,I have a huge emotional response. This response is partially due to my growing up with this music and it defining my youth. Also, it has to do with the loss of the music when Cobain committed suicide. I mean I can remember the day he died, and where I was when I heard the news.

Now Nirvana's music is brilliant, however is it the best music ever made? To me yes, but after listening to the music I am pretty sure not everyone would agree. So I am making here an emotional plea as to why Nirvana is the greatest music, and if you don’t get it then you have not personally felt it and you cannot understand.

Now do you understand why an emotional appeal for a god don't work?

Another great tune just because it deserves to be heard.

A Pain in the William Lane Craig

I have been doing myself the service or disservice of trying to understand apologetics better. As such I having been listening to William Lane Craig's podcasts on the Doctrine Of God and am wondering whether I will continue after listening to the absurdity behind the arguments used for Gods omniscience and the lack of free will that I believe it causes.

The specific podcasts I want to address are lessons 7 and 8 from the Defenders podcast Series 1. I love the names of these podcasts by the way.

So apparently if God has omniscience it does not mean we cannot have free will,as according to WLC it is just God having knowledge of the future and not deciding our future for us. So lets look at the two examples using WLC's meanings and see if it is actually possible to get away from the no free will which omniscience affords us.

1) If God has foreknowledge.

This is the simple example. If we have a choice which leads to either A or B, then if God knows A is going to happen then B could never happen. If this is the case then free will does not exist as its obvious that only option A exists.

2) If God has foreknowledge and hypothetical knowledge.

In this example it is a little more complex but essentially the same. If we have a choice which leads to either A or B, then if God knows A is going to happen then B can exist. However, B can only exist in Gods mind and so cannot exist in reality. This brings us back to position one as only option A exists.

So in both these examples only option A exists, this means we have no free will. This means God has decided who goes to hell as you cannot choose. God is all loving right?

Apparently you can get around this in the mind of WLC by having the fact that God only puts you in the position to make the correct choice for God. But now that means that still God decides what you are going to be doing and you have no choice.

This just means that you sir are a royal pain in the William Lane Craig.

Idiots of the week - Abstinence Lecturers

Saw this story on Mother Jones about abstinence lecturers and just knew they all had to qualify as a group as idiots of the week. I mean an article with a title like " Vaginas Are Like "Little Hoover Vacuums," and Other Things Abstinence Lecturers Get Paid to Tell Teens" says a lot. Most of the idiots in this article are affiliated with churches or Christianity in some way, so I have a feeling they may have another motive for their abstinence programs. Maybe something along the lines of God says it is bad, so don't have sex.

Here let me now tell you why I think all these fools should get shut down. Firstly there is evidence that abstinence only education actually leads to a higher teen pregnancy rate than safe sex education. I mean this should be enough reason to get rid of these stupid education programs.

Then there is another important thing, and that is STD transmission. Sex happens among teenagers all the time,the problem is abstinence only teens have no condoms around. No condoms around means exchange of fluids which can lead to STD transfer. In effect these idiots are teaching teenagers to be irresponsible and not look after themselves. They are in some cases, like HIV infection, teaching children how to die. Is this responsible educational methods?

This is why abstinence lecturers from everywhere deserve to be idiots of the week.

Here is a joke, what do you call people who practise abstinence only?
Parents.

And you get celebs into it as well,or should I say celebdiots.

Death Penalty - funny

Cyanide & Happiness @ Explosm.net Read more at http://www.explosm.net/comics/3374/#7FUmTxcAWuHXE4Xs.99

Makes you wonder why some theists and atheists support the death penalty.

Deeprak Chopra - How can somone so smart be so dumb?

Deeprak Chopra is either the most intellectually dishonest person or he is an idiot.

Let me give you one example why I say so. In a recent debate/conversation with Richard Dawkins there is a discussion about consciousness. Then around the 35 minute mark this happens.Chopra say that he believes a cell has awareness, and he believes atoms have awareness. Apparently this is what Freeman Dyson believes about atoms as well,which I severely doubt. Anyway WTF Deepra, how can anyone so smart be so stupid?

I mean Deepra you have studied to be a medical doctor, and now I agree that does not mean you are an Einstein but you cant be an complete imbecile. So readers I have to ask why is he such an idiot? The only thing I can come up with, is that his beliefs have made him an idiot or more accurately it has made him forget rational thought on aspects of his life which are feel good. He wants to feel good he does not want to understand and that is a shame.

BTW, this is great if you want to hear something awesome.Skip to the 44 minute mark and wait for Dawkins response to been called on an Ad hominem attack.

Another good one is the 57- 63 minutes when Richard gets his smart phone out. Well worth the wait as he destroys Chopra's intellectual dishonesty.

Here is the discussion, and yes it is in English. It was just held in Mexico I believe, so there is a Spanish introduction but the main talk is in English.

Identical twin studies do not show homosexuality is not genetic (and it does not matter anyway)

Note: I had forgotten about this, but its still relevant

Pseudo-science is my pet peeve. Its the most horrible thing as it can get used by fundamentalists all the time to twist truth about real valid scientific studies as was done earlier this years by The American Vision in an article titled "New Twin Study: People Not Born Gay" This stems from another article on the Holland Davis Christianity website which has to do with ideas of a Dr. Neil Whitehead.

What does this doctor have to say, well apparently:
Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way.
Yet there are only two citations for these studies. The main citation to the Bearman and Bruckner study which does not suggest genetic variation as a main cause but does not eliminate it, you can read the article here. Interestingly,the Bearman study deals with opposite sex twins,so even if they are identical they have one whole chromosome that is different. The Bailey study which is also cited suggests genetic variation, read here. So I am not sure how Whitehead is doing this, I mean birth studies say that he cites by name are saying there is a genetic component. But that is irrelevant really, as the more important issue comes next.

He also says that:
“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.”
and
"Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.”"
Except that this is not always the case, as minor things can cause mutations. So in effect the DNA of identical twins is not 100% as the doctor claims, as the doctor does no understand the concept of mutation. So how can any study make claims using identical twins when they have no specific gene to pinpoint? Hint: They cant. Especially when the Beraman study he likes to claim shows there is no link specifically states:
"The first model,the idea that homosexuality is a polygenetic trait cannot be tested with our data."
In fact the authors are very cautious to completely discard a genetic link. Also although this study is a big study it is important to note that only 289 of the 3,139 pairs of siblings were actually identical twins in this study. And by identical I mean that one was a girl and one was a boy but they came from the same zygote.

The problem is that this Dr Whitehead is using helpful research to support fundamentalist ideas. He is using science to support pseudo-science and it is unethical. This guy is an idiot who does not understand biology, and for that matter is not a medical doctor. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics, so next time you comment Dr Whitehead, make sure its something you apply rational thinking to.

BTW, it does not matter if homosexuality is genetic or not. People are free to do what they want, and if you are homophobic you are an idiot. Stop using your religion to hide behind. Homophobia is wrong, stand up and show you are a bigot but stop hiding behind fairy tales.

New Twin Study: People Not Born Gay

New Twin Study: People Not Born Gay

New Twin Study: People Not Born Gay

Idiot of the week - Kevin Foley

This Idiot of the week award goes to Kevin Foley and anyone else involved in the stupidity that thinks sending balloons with bibles attached over the South Korean border into North Korea is a good idea. I was amazed when I first saw this story a I live in South Korea presently and I don’t want anyone provoking the North as they are a bunch of misbehaved children.

So back to the story, the reason this is been done is because the Christians in North Korea are been persecuted,and they are most probably right. In fact they believe that 30,000 of the 100,000 are in labour camps,and again they are probably right. But now lets get back to reality.

If someone gets caught with a bible they could get either executed or sent to a labour camp. So they are sending bibles across the border to do what exactly? Enslave others?

In North Korea Christianity is illegal, so they are sending bibles from South Korea (a nation that is still at war with the North). In effect this righteous group is showing a complete disregard for the Norths rules. They are also provoking the North, but I guess Pastor Foley can go back to the states if the shit hits the fan due to his bibles.

Oh one more thing,North Koreans are dying every day due to malnutrition. Why not send food, surely that would be better than bibles.

You Kevin Foley are an idiot.

The God confusion - funny, satire

Moderate Islam is a joke

I am in an argument with a few people nowadays regarding moderate Islam and what it actually means. It all stems from this video which was posted on Sam Harris's website.

This is amazing as it shows how screwed up moderate Islam actually is. Don’t believe me? Let us look at the following portions of the video.

3:33 The speaker asks how many of you in the audience are not radical Muslims?
90% of the people raise their hands.

3:55 How may of you believe men and women should sit separate?
Everyone raises their hand, and everyone clearly believe in discrimination.

4:35 How many of you believe the punishments (like stoning for adultery) in the Koran are good and correct?
Everyone raises their hand. These people are moderate Muslims remember, moderate means death by stoning for adultery. Sharia law is disgusting and a violation of human rights. This means moderate Islam is against basic human rights.

If this is moderate Islam,then it shows just how evil Islam really is. This is why countries like Saudi Arabia allow rape victims to get lashed, this is why the Taliban will never back down. This is just another reason why the world does not need belief in imaginary things.

Quantum misuderstood theism

What is an electron? Is it a particle or is it a wave? Does it go through one hole or does it go through both? Surely this depends whether you view it from the particle or the wave point of view, but then if you view it from one point of view then the result of the experiment will change. So can we then determine what an electron is without not knowing what an electron is? Or does it even go through one of the holes? and if it does go through the hole does it go straight ahead? Or does it follow so many twists and turns that it first travels from Earth to Jupiter to Saturn and then back again to be detected?

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I hope the previous paragraph confused you. The reason I tried to confuse you, even if I didn’t, is actually not confusing. It goes something like this Quantum Mechanics (QM) is a field of science that is understood in its totality by a handful of people worldwide. The implications are beyond most of our comprehension and this is why I have to wonder how any theist can say that QM proves a deity.

I do not understand all QM, but I do understand some ‎of it. It is for this reason that I refuse to entertain any argument from a theist that uses QM as a proof for the existence of God.I think if you honestly understand QM and then are using it as proof for the existence, then you are very dishonest. The implications of QM have nothing to do with God, so please don’t use it as an argument. In fact if you go look you will most probably find that the people in the world that do understand QM are all atheists.

So this begs the question, why would you assert that QM does prove God? It is my belief it is any easy way to get honest people to back down, as most people will say I don’t understand QM and will not get into the subject as it is beyond their comprehension.It is like the silver bullet of apologetics, it stops an argument dead in its tracks as most people are not comfortable debating it. The problem is often the person making the assertion has no idea what they are talking about, and have found the phrase "QM proves God" on pseudo science sites like  answersingenesis or scienceislam.

So next time a theist brings this up don’t debate them, ask them for the publication proof in Nature or Science. Trust me it will be published in either of those journals.

Homophobia or Racism

Here is my attempt to show you that their is no difference between racism and homophobia.

Racism

It's the 1950's and Mary has found the true love of her life, unforunatally its happens to be Bob the African American. What should she do should she tell her father, head of the church in the town she lives in? He regulary preaches that African's are lesser people and will go to hell for their sinful ways. Should she live in denial and fear and reject the true love of her life? Should she express her love openly for Bob, and accept the ridicule and hate from others, that would go hand in hand with been in a meaningful loving relationship. Or should she pray and god will liberate her from the feelings she has for this African American man.

Fast forward to the new millenium

Homophobia

It's the 1999 and Mary has found the true love of her life, unforunatally its happens to be Lisa the home coming queen. What should she do should she tell her father, head of the church in the town she lives in? He regulary preaches that gays are lesser people and will go to hell for their sinful ways. Should she live in denial and fear and reject the true love of her life? Should she express her love openly for Lisa, and accept the ridicule and hate from others, that would go hand in hand with been in a meaningful loving relationship. Or should she pray and god will liberate her from the feelings she has for this same sex partner.

So what is the difference?

The denial of basic human rights to gay people is the same as denying basic human rights to any other race group. The issue I believe is that people just don't understand what the words BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS mean.

Idiot of the week - Imran Khan

I love cricket, and so it is with a little sadness that I have to give this weeks idiot award to Imran Kahn. Basically Imran has said he and his followers will block the NATO roads into Afghanistan if the USA does not stop drone strikes against the Taliban in Pakistan.

This story has been a huge bone of contention between Pakistan, the USA and the Taliban. But everything boils down to one fact and that is the drone strike that killed Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud.The day after the drone strike was meant to be the day that the Taliban and Pakistan governments were meant to meet to discuss a peace treaty. However, with the death of Mehsud the peace talks have fallen through while the Taliban finds a new chief. So yes this is bad in that sense but maybe we need to remember who these people really are, and why I say Imran Khan is an idiot. (Edit: Apparently the Taliban has a new leader.)

The Taliban has never agreed to peace, all other attempts at a peace process in Pakistan with the Taliban have failed.
These are the people that have conducted multiple terror attacks in Pakistan and along the Afghanistan/Pakistan border in the name of Allah. Something for which there is no proof, so we can ascertain they are mentally deluded.
The Taliban does not want women to go to school. Actually they don't want real education for anyone, they want you to read the Koran and just obey like sheep.
The Taliban are a bunch of idiotic terrorists, and are not to be trusted. Lest we forget what else they are guilty off, here is a small list of resources.
State report on terror attacks in 2012
Factmonster.com
Wikipedia

So Imran I am sorry to say, you are an idiot if you have any trust in these people. The only time they will learn is when they are backed into a corner and the hot lead is flying at them, and then it will be too late.

Muhammed lego set - funny,satire

Saw this a while back,and decided to share. This is not my work, although I wish it was.

How do you solve a problem like Noah?

How do you solve a problem like Noah? According to the people at Answersingenesis you don’t need to as the ark and the Noah story make perfect sense. Let me show you how.

According to Genesis the ark was 300 X 50 X 30 cubits = 450000 cubits^3. This translates to 158.7 X 26.45 X 15.87 = 66616.15 m^3 as 1 cubit = 0,529 m on the high side of the scale.

Next is an assumption you need to make. That is only vertebrates were allowed on the ark. And there were only 16000 animals on the ark, which means 8000 kinds. This translates into the following space for the animals.
66616 / 16000 = 4.16 m^3 which is 1.6 m X 1.6 m area and you must also not be taller than 1.60m.

See no problem :)

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However...............

Previously, I used the fact that only 8000 kinds were on the ark. This presents a problem for creationists as it leads to super evolution within the last 6000 years to bring us to the accepted amount of vertebrates in the world today which is 29811 (excluding fish). So creationism leads to evolution beyond what scientists accept today.

So what about if we work out the amount of space and get rid of the evolution that the creationists hate so much. If we only consider all the vertebrates. we would have 59622 animals on board. So each animal had 1.12m^3 or 1.03 m X 1.03 m area and had to be shorter than 1.03 m.  Sticking to vertebrates. What if we also consider all the extinct vertebrates like dinosaurs, an others like dodos, Bali tiger, wild ass, etc etc etc. I would need to make assumptions so lets forget this for now, but I am pretty sure the space will decrease.

How about we ignore the fact that God is a dick and only put insects on the ark. After all there are 950 000 (which is 1.9 million insects) of them so they would already fill the ark in a buzzing swarm of chaos. Each insect has 0.035m^3 which is a lot for an insect, but hey at least there is now some space left for all the small animals that need to fit on. All those small animals like two baby elephants,or two baby T-Rex.

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Importantly, at this moment this calculation above was have been done using the space provided using the biblical citations. We have not calculated anything in like space taken by lumber used to construct the ark. Also, we have also not calculated space to breathe.

So what happens when we consider space, food, water, feces and lumber requirements? Turns out that the ark would never work as it was just too darn small.


Got to love simple math, so powerful that it shows creation to be as idiotic as it sounds.

A novel solution to a big problem

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Problem:

The war in Afghanistan has not been won. It more than likely will never be won, as religion is the problem. So here I am to present a novel solution to the problem in Afghanistan.

Solution:
Use Jehovah's witnesses from any country that wants to send them. Think about it, they can go knock on doors around Afghanistan and try convert all the Muslims. If these conversions happen then the Islamic fanaticism will go away. Additionally, Jehovah's witnesses are pacifists so they will not take over as new fundamentalists with an axe to grind. If it does not work we get rid of one problem.

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In summary:

The Jehovah's witnesses win as they get sent to a new country to witness and its free for them. It will cost way less than the governements around the world currently use to fund war.

The countries win as they get rid of their early morning door knockers. This is clearly better for public health and stress levels.

Afghanistan wins as they will hopefully eventually have peace after years of violence.

What do you think?

Dividing by zero - funny

Idiot of the week - Dave Daubenmire

Sometimes you have to sit back and wonder how people say what they say. You ask the question, "do they ever actually think before they open there mouth?" This is certainly the case for Dave Daubenmire as I don’t think this guy ever thinks. If he does think then he is even worse than what I currently think about him. Here is why Daubenmire is the idiot of the week for his simple endorsement of bullying. Thats right endorsement!

He seems to think that because Christians are not allowed to bully gays that this is leading to the destruction of the American society. Small leap from bullying to the ruin of a country, kind of like the leap of faith you need to believe in God. Actually he thinks so little of himself that he refers to his fathers generation as the greatest generation. Dave you are a caveman if you believe anti-bullying laws started due to gay rights. Dave you are an idiot if you want to get rid of anti-bullying laws, especially when you say Christians are been bullied. Like I say some people just don’t think.

A miracle story - thoughts from the past

Do miracles actually ever happen? Some people will say they do and have witnessed these miracles. The second group of people will say they are true,because a friend/parent/wife/etc witnessed a miracle. So I thought I would share a story about a "miracle" that happened at a church were I attended when I was still one of the sheep.

Firstly,I did not witness this miracle myself but it got retold to me by a friend of mine at the time,we have subsequently lost contact. The story goes that this friend of mine saw a leg growing. So in this story a child who had one leg shorter than the other was prayed for and the child’s leg grew. I remember this child wore shoes with one bigger sole,so that he could walk without causing himself serious back and joint damage. Now this is a remarkable claim,and as a believer I took it seriously and was amazed by the power of God. However,that was all going to change 6 months down the line.

6 months later,been the idiots that we were (we were 15 years old),we started playing the fainting game. I don’t want to get into the specifics of how we did it, but we induced self hypocapnia (Don't do this,its very dangerous!). Usually this experience lasts a few seconds, but one friend of ours would stay in these fainted states for up to a minute (or 2) before we woke him. It was freaky as we would see his eyelids move behind his eyes and he would shake now and again. Anyway, this guy after a few weeks of our idiocy told us all he was faking it. Naturally we did not believe,so he said okay lets do it. We repeated everything with him and then he didn't faint like before, we were shocked. However we still did not believe him and so he showed us without the fainting treatment how to do all the eye movement and shaking associated with his fainting spells.

Interesting thing,this is the same guy that saw the leg growing in the church.

So was this a miracle? Maybe,but look at the source. He was my friend but he also enjoyed an elaborate hoax. Its for this reason that I don't believe the leg grew in that church service, after all every other miracle claim has failed why should this be any different.

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I am not scared of your Hell threats

In my upbringing I was exposed to Christianity, but luckily the one thing I do not recall is that I never got the Hell scared into me at church. As such Hell was never an issue for me as a theist. For some reason it was not brought up much and when it was brought up it was not used in an abusive way to threaten. If anything it was just part of the story and was not the focus of the story, or maybe I thought I was the most awesome Christian ever and way too good to go to Hell.

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Let me say here, that I do believe not condemning followers to Hell every week is a good way to keep people attending church. So, maybe the church was smarter than I gave them credit for. Eventually, the whole realisation of Hell and what it meant actually is one of the reasons that I left the irrational thought of Christianity behind. Truth is I was just not prepared to accept that some really good people would be burning in Hell while some really horrible people were sitting in Heaven. (Side note, this realization didn’t help my depression either.)

But to make my point clear to any theist that ever reads this. "I AM NOT AFRAID OF HELL." Why should I be? Its a fictional place and pretty much like any good horror story at Halloween. But even if hell was real, I would love to go there as its literally cooler than heaven. Also and more importantly, Hell is where all the cool kids are going to be. Heaven has Popes, Hell has my grandfather, Christopher Hitchens, Albert Einstein, Richard Feynman and Ernest Hemingway to mention a few. But then again that’s just assuming Christianity is the one true way to go.

Theists stop using Hell to intimidate atheists it does not work. More importantly stop using Hell to intimidate other theists its just despicable behaviour.

Why I hate Censorship

I detest censorship, and yes I realise it is your blog and you can do what you want. But here it is again the biggest reason why I hate censorship.

Recently I got invited to a blog to read some theist rant about god and how awesome god is. So thanks for the invite, but when you invite me somewhere and rant then please be ready to accept my rebuttals. So I decided to comment and ask a few demanding questions. Surprise, my comment has to get approved? Now I am sorry, this is unacceptable. Don’t invite me to read your tripe when you do not intend to have an open a free forum. This means you should not be able to moderate what I write, unless granted I use profanity or death threats. BTW, I don’t use profanity or death threats. But this situation can get worse than just not allowing comments, it is actually possible for this person to reply to comments and when I try rebut their arguments they just censor me and claim victory.

I suppose people reading this will say I should trust they will do the right thing. Let me just say this, in my dealings with theists I never expect the right thing. So hey if you have a blog, here are my tips. Censor spam, in fact most comments platforms (even the one supplied as default by Blogger) have spam detection. If you need another smarter platform to block persistent trolls there are other platforms to adapt. Censorship is never  a good thing, it allows unethical people to be more unethical.

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Maybe its time to develop a badge for Internet pages which have non-censorship.

BTW the other reason I don’t like censorship. If you are brave enough to put drivel out to an international audience be prepared to accept international condemnation of your ideas.

Scientology - funny,satire

Enjoy :)

Idiots of the Week: Kevin Swanson and Dave Buehner

This weeks Idiots are the duo of Kevin Swanson and Dave Buehner. Thanks to Right wing watch for the links.

According to Kevin and Dave, feminism directly translates into lesbianism and abortions (Planned Parenthood). This is why the are so against girl scout cookies and the girl scouts organisation, which apparently is another pseudonym for feminism. They disagree with the girl scouts because for one reason and one reason only, they believe in the biblical view of women that is that women should be subservient with no rights who are tortured by God and have no free will but to obey their husbands (Ephesians 5:22 and Genesis 3:16).

So in a nutshell this is what they want in brief. They don’t want women to have equal rights in the work place either. They don't want homosexuals to have rights. They want to make sure that your daughters don't get a good education. They don't want women to have the right to abortions. They want women at home, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. This is what these two idiots stand for, and to them I say congratulations you are the Idiots of the week.

Here is just one of their three rants highlighted at RWW.

Skeptic Yoda - funny

I know the idea of Yoda as a skeptic is absurd, but enjoy.

Genesis tells me the world is 6000 years old, how could I possibly be wrong.

Answersingenesis wants to explain to us why the world is only 6000 years old. So lets look at the evidence for why they say the world is only 6000 and not the 13.8 billion years old that scientists think. Skip to point 8 for the real evidence.

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1. Circular Reasoning.
Apparently scientists are in a loop of dismissing biblical evidence as all groups don’t want to say the 13.8 billion years number is wrong. So scientists are in a self-sustaining loop of confirmation, when everyone wants to scream out that its only 6000 years old. Clearly answers has no idea how the scientific method works.

2. The evolution connection
Evolution is accepted by scientists and this requires a long time scale and thus an older earth than is biblically accepted. This means all the evolution evidence is false as it does not fit in with young earth creationism. we are not offered any alternative for evolutionary evidence like DNA, chemical and fossils its just not accepted.

3. The big-bang connection
The heresy of the big bang is thrown out as it contradicts the bible on what was created first i.e. the heavens or the earth. Also the one possible end to the Universe is heat death and that also contradicts the bible and eternal Heaven and the Revelation. I wonder why they only give credence to the heat death hypothesis and not the other ways the Universe can end? Maybe they don’t know about them, like all the other things they don't know about. The people at answers however do not offer any proof that the bible is real (not even a link), I guess that’s in another article.

4.The Assumptions of Naturalism and Uniformitarianism
These are philosophical questions, so not sure why they are on a so called science site. In other words lets ignore them, and by the way they are rejected as they disagree with the bible.

  

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5.The distant starlight problem
Apparently the problem that starlight from the furthest stars which would take billions of years (thereby affirming the billions of years old universe) is wrong. This is easily explained by the fact that God can magically make light move faster if he wanted, so even if these stars are billions of miles away its not a problem for an all powerful God. Again as before no evidence is given for this God, so guess its somewhere else. Wish they would give a link though.

6.Light travel-time: a problem for the big bang
Answers points out that the Horizon Problem is the biggest failing of the Big Bang Theory. Well here we could say they are correct, as they reject the inflationary theory and that is fine. However, again they are rejecting a theory (like evolution) for which there is experimental evidence without offering an alternative beside the bible which does not explain anything. Dishonesty anyone?

7.Attempts at compromise
Here answers shows all other theistic interpretations to try fit Genesis with the Big Bang are wrong as they are misinterpreting the Bible. Whatever I don’t care, let them theists keep there silly arguments between themselves. After all the Bible is not accurate in anyway.

8. The evidence confirms a young universe
Finally, the evidence!.........
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Uhhmmm, seriously there was none.

All in all, if you don’t believe the bible you have no evidence for young earth creationism. Yet they offer evidence, this evidence is called denial and shouting louder.